Good Days And Bad Days, Plus Lay365 Review
An excellent day yesterday, dear readers, for followers of TrainerFlatStats and Laying System, and something of a 'plug-y' self-congratulatory post today as a result.
TFS had one runner, Melalchrist, who won at 11/4. That's three winners and a second from the last five selections, including a 9/1 payoff (the other horse finished fourth at 8/1).
For Laying System, there were four losers yesterday from four runners. The odds were 5/2, 5/2, 9/4 and 2/1.
Although the qualifying races look a good bit trappier today, I'm hopeful that our good run will continue.
You can still take a free trial of Laying System, although you'll only get a week now rather than the previous fortnight. Still, it's something for nothing and will enable you to paper trade with no risk.
The url is http://www.Laying-System.com
so why not try it out?
Talking of paper trading, I cannot emphasise enough the importance of a period testing things out before you part with any folding. This is why I'm more than happy to demonstrate Laying System (for good or bad, and of course we have bad runs) free before a bean is spent.
It really p155es me off when people sign up for a free trial for a product of mine, and cancel after one or two days, moaning that they've lost money. (You know who you are...)
DO NOT BET WHEN YOU ARE ENJOYING A FREE TRIAL!!!
It is a completely obligation-free opportunity to test drive something without expense. Take advantage of that opportunity!
Elsewhere in the laying world, news reaches me of a product that a number of you have enquired about, due to its ads appearing in the google ad boxes on the left hand side.
This particular product is called Lay365. A couple of things stand out about this service immediately:
1) The contact email address is a hotmail address. Would you trust a service that doesn't even have its own domain emails? (Maybe, but I sure wouldn't!)
2) There is no free trial
3) There is no money back guarantee.
Now points 2 and 3 are interchangeable. That is, if there's no free trial, that's ok as long as I can paper trade and - if I'm losing money - get a refund. Equally, if I've been able to trial something to my satisfaction, I should then be prepared to part with my cash without a guarantee.
In the case of this site, there is no online payment option. Rather, to sign up you need to set up a standing order.
Whilst this is not standard, there's nothing especially wrong with it: you have control over the Standing Order and can cancel any time. But I'd still expect to see an online payment option (like PayPal or Clickbank or Nochex, etc).
Be all that as it may, how do the selections stack up?
Well, from June 27th to now, one disappointed reader writes to tell me:
Indeed, since the start of August, things have taken a turn for the worse, with the following results:
Won 7-2,
L,
no bet,
Won 11-4,
no bet,
Won 9-4,
L,
L,
Won 2-1
no bet
no bet
L
Won 4-1 Five winners four losers with one day missing.
Lay365 gets a big thumbs down from me, based on this evidence, and - as my correspondent correctly points out - the owner of the site has stopped putting up the results now.
Avoid this one.
If you want to try a laying system, then try mine. I can't promise you'll have amazing results instantly, but I can tell you that:
- we're nicely in front since inception
- there's no unrealistic odds listed (all prices quoted are SP + 16%; 5% commission deducted on winning trades)
- you can try it without any risk to you for a week (paper trade!!!!)
- if you want to discuss anything, you know you'll get a response. Anyone who's ever emailed me has received a personal reply, even when they've been, erm, a little direct... ;) [I don't mind directness, I am quite prone to it myself!]
TFS had one runner, Melalchrist, who won at 11/4. That's three winners and a second from the last five selections, including a 9/1 payoff (the other horse finished fourth at 8/1).
For Laying System, there were four losers yesterday from four runners. The odds were 5/2, 5/2, 9/4 and 2/1.
Although the qualifying races look a good bit trappier today, I'm hopeful that our good run will continue.
You can still take a free trial of Laying System, although you'll only get a week now rather than the previous fortnight. Still, it's something for nothing and will enable you to paper trade with no risk.
The url is http://www.Laying-System.com
so why not try it out?
Talking of paper trading, I cannot emphasise enough the importance of a period testing things out before you part with any folding. This is why I'm more than happy to demonstrate Laying System (for good or bad, and of course we have bad runs) free before a bean is spent.
It really p155es me off when people sign up for a free trial for a product of mine, and cancel after one or two days, moaning that they've lost money. (You know who you are...)
DO NOT BET WHEN YOU ARE ENJOYING A FREE TRIAL!!!
It is a completely obligation-free opportunity to test drive something without expense. Take advantage of that opportunity!
Elsewhere in the laying world, news reaches me of a product that a number of you have enquired about, due to its ads appearing in the google ad boxes on the left hand side.
This particular product is called Lay365. A couple of things stand out about this service immediately:
1) The contact email address is a hotmail address. Would you trust a service that doesn't even have its own domain emails? (Maybe, but I sure wouldn't!)
2) There is no free trial
3) There is no money back guarantee.
Now points 2 and 3 are interchangeable. That is, if there's no free trial, that's ok as long as I can paper trade and - if I'm losing money - get a refund. Equally, if I've been able to trial something to my satisfaction, I should then be prepared to part with my cash without a guarantee.
In the case of this site, there is no online payment option. Rather, to sign up you need to set up a standing order.
Whilst this is not standard, there's nothing especially wrong with it: you have control over the Standing Order and can cancel any time. But I'd still expect to see an online payment option (like PayPal or Clickbank or Nochex, etc).
Be all that as it may, how do the selections stack up?
Well, from June 27th to now, one disappointed reader writes to tell me:
"After about 3 losers he gave a 7-1 winner, then a couple of
bets later he gave another good odds winner. Then I was over £300 down
but going on his past results I thought I'd have a good chance of recuperating
the loss - very nearly did.
I stuck it out 'til July 27th and was almost at break-even so I decided to continue.
A BAD decision. His bets that win are always at much higher odds than
he claims and after writing two very straight emails to him, he didn't reply
I have asked twice to a refund but they say that they don't give refunds.
My £600 starting bank using only his tips at 5% of the bank (£30) I am
now about £350 down and if you include the 2 subs of £30 each I'm
well over £400 out of pocket.
You can NEVER get the advertised odds
I was one point short of break-even near the end of July when he gave
2 winners from 3 bets (maybe 4) This knocked me further back then he
gave another fair priced winner so I've had to stop or I'll be in the workhouse.
He gave a loser on August 1st but since then hasn't dared to put his results up
A good piece of advice to anyone trying a service is to ask if there's a money
back guarantee if not satisfied."
Indeed, since the start of August, things have taken a turn for the worse, with the following results:
Won 7-2,
L,
no bet,
Won 11-4,
no bet,
Won 9-4,
L,
L,
Won 2-1
no bet
no bet
L
Won 4-1 Five winners four losers with one day missing.
Lay365 gets a big thumbs down from me, based on this evidence, and - as my correspondent correctly points out - the owner of the site has stopped putting up the results now.
Avoid this one.
If you want to try a laying system, then try mine. I can't promise you'll have amazing results instantly, but I can tell you that:
- we're nicely in front since inception
- there's no unrealistic odds listed (all prices quoted are SP + 16%; 5% commission deducted on winning trades)
- you can try it without any risk to you for a week (paper trade!!!!)
- if you want to discuss anything, you know you'll get a response. Anyone who's ever emailed me has received a personal reply, even when they've been, erm, a little direct... ;) [I don't mind directness, I am quite prone to it myself!]
http://www.Laying-System.com
Finally, here are today's Racing Members Club selections:
15.05 Salis 6 Shavoulin
16.15 Salis 5 Olympian Odyssey
16.50 Salis 2 Aphorism
17.10 Tram 9 The Spoonplayer
17.30 Folk 9 Red Raptor
They are currently showing seven losers and one winner (3.8) since the service went public on Sunday.
You can find out more at http://tinyurl.com/2ul5j9
Cheers,
Matt
15.05 Salis 6 Shavoulin
16.15 Salis 5 Olympian Odyssey
16.50 Salis 2 Aphorism
17.10 Tram 9 The Spoonplayer
17.30 Folk 9 Red Raptor
They are currently showing seven losers and one winner (3.8) since the service went public on Sunday.
You can find out more at http://tinyurl.com/2ul5j9
Cheers,
Matt
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